8w7 ENTPs Vs ENTJs (A Complete Guide)

This article will look at the 8w7 enneagram and how it compares when it either combines with the ENTJ or ENTP personality types. It will introduce each of the personalities and highlight the traits that arise from their combinations.

ENTP 8w7 Vs ENTJ 8w7

We will look at the differences between the personality types that arise when the 8w7 enneagram combines with the following:

  • The ENTJ Personality – Commanders
  • The ENTP Personality – Debaters

Before we highlight the traits that arise from the combination of the above personalities with the 8w7 enneagram, we will introduce them individually to the readers!

The 3 Personalities- 8w7s, ENTJs, ENTPs

In this section, we will introduce the 8w7 enneagram along with the ENTJ and ENTP personality types.

8w7 Enneagrams – Nonconformists

The 8w7 enneagram type shares most of its traits with the 8 type enneagram but also has some traits from the wing 7 too. This enneagram is generally comfortable with conflicts that they may face and this is because they are confident, independent and quite ambitious! They persevere in their path and do not let others get in the way. Furthermore, they may be quiet but when the time comes they will speak up and defend their own stance or those of others. 

Although they wander much around in their mind, these enneagram types are also great at handling people and taking practical steps. They make the right decisions and prefer to do so on their own without much interference. Apart from thinking clearly and logically, they are creative and like to test innovative ideas! They go the extra mile when it comes to establishing goals or milestones that they want to achieve. They are big dreamers and quite idealistic in their vision. They want to create a world or society where people can go big or go home. They want to help others achieve their own dreams by ensuring no one creates hurdles for them.

This enneagram type, however, is afraid of losing their own autonomy and maybe this is why they are so independent because they want to assure themselves that they can handle most matters on their own. At the same time, these individuals also struggle when it comes to being emotionally honest or vulnerable. They will try to ignore their own emotions or what they feel because they are either too afraid of facing them or just want to focus on what is going on in the external world. They won’t even let anyone too close as they do not want to become emotionally or mentally vulnerable.

This enneagram type has however developed great people skills and can become effective and inspirational leaders. They are open when it comes to sharing their thoughts and opinions about certain matters with others – they do not care about what others will think. They are comfortable creating connections with others and can easily do so.

However, this enneagram does have some weaknesses. They will have difficulty in following instructions from authority figures and they are impatient at times. They may overindulge in themselves or their work and may become insensitive to the feelings of others. 

The Basic Fear – 8w7s

This enneagram type fears being controlled and manipulated by others. They are scared they will become helpless or weak to the extent that others will tell them what to do and how to do it – something which is against their wishes or desires. They want to be able to control how they do things. Hence, this is why they prefer to work alone despite having great people skills and will remain independent and somewhat distant too. They do not like authority because it triggers the fears in their subconscious mind of being controlled in one way or the other.

If you’re facing this, it may be a good idea to seek the help of a therapist or other mental health professional. You can find a therapist at BetterHelp who can help you learn how to cope and address it.

What Non-Conformists Desire

The Non-conformist desires to remain in control of their own life. They realize that this can only be achieved if they work hard and become independent. This desire is so strong and deep that they desire it for others too hence they are oftentimes advocates for others too. They want to be able to be free and not under the influence of others.

To achieve this, they defy whatever vulnerability they may have within themselves either emotionally or mentally. They stay distant from others when they can and ignore any feelings that arise in them. This helps them stay focused on their goals and not fall into the traps set by other people.

ENTJs – The Commanders

Yes they are bold and strong and make great leaders as they are decisive and value accomplishment! These individuals often bring together people for a united cause by using their charisma and confidence that projects a certain authority people admire!

When it comes to the strengths of these personality types, ENTJs are self confident and energetic. They not only believe in themself but do so with much determination and commitment. They are efficient and strong willed which gives them an extra boost to achieve that they set out to gain and hence impress their followers.

These individuals possess the ability to charm whomever they meet and inspire them with their motivation, commitment and desire to accomplish their goals. 

On top of all that, these individuals possess the ability of strategic thinking. Yes they are smart when it comes to planning; they are able to scrutinize the plans they are willing to uptake and improvise whenever required! They are good handlers of crisis situations and can navigate their way out of things. 

It would not be immature to say that all these strengths are indeed accompanied by some weaknesses. To achieve much, commanders can sometimes become stubborn and impatient. They are so strong willed that they often refuse to listen to others who might think they need to give up something or wait a bit longer for the right time!

They have a firm belief in what they want to achieve to the extent they consider it pure of any imperfections hence people may consider them arrogant. 

At the same time, regardless of their great thinking skills, commanders are unable to regulate their emotions well which may attribute a certain amount of instability to their personal lives.

What Is An ENTP Personality Type

Also known as the ‘Debater’, the ENTP is one of the personality types of the Myer Briggs Type Indicator that is extroverted, intuitive, a thinker and perceiver! They are very charismatic and bold, not to mention creative, mentally agile and persistent.

These individuals like to re-energize themselves by meeting friends and family, socializing at their favorite eatery, taking a walk in the park with their friends or simply hanging out with people they love. What matters is that they have someone to give them company, share their feelings and thoughts with and converse maniacally with any topic that comes to mind. It’s refreshing to connect with others.

ENTPs are intuitive which means they don’t always focus on the facts or what is in front of them. Yes they very much appreciate logic and the relationships they can see however, this does not stop them from thinking out of the box. People who are intuitive are known for making many discoveries in world history and this does not happen by just ordinary thinking; they must go beyond the scope they are given! They give value to their vision, dreams and even imagination and combine that with what they already have in their hands.

Such people give weightage to their thoughts and what seems structured or logical rather than the emotions they feel for others. Sometimes this can be detrimental and they find difficulty in understanding the emotional complaints or requests their loved ones have. People with this personality type focus on values like truth and justice and prefer to see the logic or aim of things. They can be described as task oriented rather than people oriented.

ENTPs are perceivers and this may explain why they are able to achieve so much in terms of their discoveries and contributions to the world. Such people are spontaneous; they prefer things that come and go rather than a structured boring plan. They need excitement and can’t wait for it. 

The Unique Combinations

In this section, we will highlight the traits that arise when the 8w7 enneagram combines with the ENTJ and ESTJ personality types!

8w7s & ENTJs

Here are the traits that the 8w7 ENTJ personality type exhibits:

  • Highly Ambitious
  • Motivated
  • Overworking Tendencies
  • Avoids Pain
  • Practical
  • Straightforward

8w7s & ENTPs

Here are the traits that the 8w7 ENTP personality type exhibits:

  • Energetic
  • Great Debaters
  • Logical Arguments
  • Manipulators
  • Charming


This article wanted to point out the differences in terms of traits that arise when the 8w7 enneagram combines with the ENTJ and ENTP personality types from the MBTI inventory. Furthermore, the article also introduced all three personalities to the audience.





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